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" history is the result of our ( ie leaders ) diseases "

( freely quoted after Mao Zedong )

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" leaders ( and their often very significant diseases ), are the result of a system "

( reflections based on experiences in the historical Roman Empire )

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In the danish PM's and Denmark's case, both statements together, characterizes the situation.

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Denmark is a typical representative for many countries in the western part of the world, "the collective west", yet, even a bit more extreme in that sense. Denmark has a remarkable readyness to agression, and carry the 2nd highest losses of soldiers, only surpassed by US.

( what happened to "the worlds happiest people" ? )

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Denmark doesn' t understand it's role in history or geopolitics.

It´s repeating a historical mistake for ( at least ) the third time - by engaging with some of the history's strongest - and worst leaders - Napoleon, Hitler and now US/Ukraine-PM's - all three times the same idea to dictate/dominnate an impose/force "rule-based order" at Russia ( and the rest of Asia and other continents ).

This is the total lack of connection with reality, which roams in the empty shell of the danish PM and what she represents. She certainly doesn' t represent all the danish people, and she doesn' t respecyt those who oppose her. By supporting the US-dominance, investigated by it´s own congress, which documented 251 millitary operations all over the world between 1991-2022, she's not only responsible for Denmark and its people, but is also complicit in the crimes against humanity, warcrimes etc, commited by US/Nato.

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https:/∆/crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R42738

( remove ∆ and you have the full link )

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To me, that tells all - it´s criminal, unethical og unacceptable, and the only consequence must be courts like ICJ. Unfortunately neither ICJ or UN works properly anymore.

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That leaves mankind in a very difficult situation. It may be nessecary and decisive to take deeply personal responsibility, ethically and active, acting accordingly, since there are no representation by any official authority whatsoever, working properly anymore.

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" be the change you wanna see in the world " ( freely after Gandhi )

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Is that where we are ?

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” all forms of freedom are connected (bound to eachother ) :

Freedom of music leads to free feelings.

Free feelings lead to free thought.

Free thought leads to free acting.

Free acting is the ” Enemy number One ” of the state.

- if you don' t want change, don' t change the form of music. "

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( freely after : Jean le Ronde d'Alembert, french, approx 1750 )

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Omar Ingerslev, well written and quite 'horribly' true. We all have a responsibility to bring this insanity to health – Cliff

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She is willfully ignorant of history.

She is oblivious of the fact, that if going to war with a country 1000 times bigger and stronger,Denmark risks being eradicated... neither does she act as the PM of a sovereign country, but as a vassal ... or colony.

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bente

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Ja, plat kommentar fra Erik Hansen.

Dagbladet Arbejderen er ikke engang stalinistisk, men har bevæget sig langt ind mod den politiske midte. Og er endda enig med Vesten og dets medier om at Rusland er imperialistisk. Dét Sovjet/Rusland, der siden Murens Fald har fået halveret dets territorium, er blevet omgivet af USA-kontrollerede stater - men Rusland er altså imperialistisk, fordi det søger at standse denne proces.

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Since Fogh Rasmussen and escalating with Mette Frederiksen Danish foreign policy and Danish agressive military actions has been a disaster.

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Agree 💯 It’s shameful to be danish with that warmongering government we have. Denmark a a puppet and useful idiot for USAs illegal wars. The danish PM are stupid and don’t know what’s going on in Ukraine It’s not Russia who started the war. It’s USA NATO in 2014. It’s unbelievable she’s so ignorant and stupid that she don’t know anything about USAs activities in Ukraine since 2008. The decision to allow US military bases in Denmark is a disaster and make Denmark a legitimate target for Russia. Denmark are a small country with less than 6 million people Our army are totally destroyed because different governments have decided to participate in USAs wars 1000 of miles from Denmark in countries who never have threatened Denmark So the danish local army have for the last 30 years been starved and spared to uselessness Our former PM Anders Fogh Rasmussen involved Denmark in USAs illegal war in Iraq and later in Afghanistan For that he became NATO General Secretary His a war criminal and have blood on his hands. Mette Frederiksen is even worse than him Denmark should work for peace and only provide humanitarian support and not participate in USAs endless illegal loser wars

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"The Danish Lady of War

One of the world's leading warfare advocates, Danish PM Mette Frederiksen, on the slack line at Bloomberg."

Yes, Jan, it is quite terrible and completely unreasonable when something so bad happens in our time. But in my opinion, it was predictable when we saw what was going on in the pandemic: a silent war on own citizens. THE POLITICIANS are criminals of the first rank. People who create classes and divisions and pretend to be for everyone in a country are traitors.

The citizens consent and give acceptance to the criminals and their draconian methods. We must never forget that.

That she is more loyal to Washington/NATO than to the interests of the Danish people is an understatement that she works for a so-called New World Order and will give away our sovereignty for a picture as a page 9 girl in an American magazine for upper-class criminals.

What goes on in a society that uses POLITICAL AUTHORITIES is a constant robbery of you via a forced TAX SYSTEM, and the criminals can use these funds to wage all kinds of war against whoever pays, whether it is war against other people like you, in no way have any conflict with or have the slightest objection to. The STATE criminals can even use your TAX PAYMENTS to abuse and oppress you without you having the slightest influence on it.

They pretend to have a LEGAL SYSTEM to protect the citizen, it is part of this POLITICAL SYSTEM and as such is not impartial.

If I end up in a fight with one of my neighbours/compatriots because that person has committed an assault on one or more of my family members, I will end up in prison, even if what I do is justified.

If, on the other hand, I sign up for military service and am sent to a foreign country where I kill several innocent people, I get a medal and permission to speak on official occasions and a special status in society and none of the people I killed have ever harmed me, mine, or anyone else I know, their only 'crime' is that they reside within a certain country border.

– Are you there?

– Can you see that your 'own' mind has deceived you?

Why is the system built as it is, and why does a so-called democracy pose a threat?

Everyone who casts their vote is guilty; no one goes free!

When you go to the polls and cast your vote, whether you vote red, green, blue or blank, you are guilty of these terrible abuses. War arises from having forced taxes, with which it is possible to invest in all kinds of devices (weapons) to destroy the existence of other people. The masses try to put the responsibility on everyone else and the leader, and yet history shows that this has always been the case with these TAXES. They generate a power structure and are the indirect cause of all wars. When Mr and Mrs Denmark now do not want to accept responsibility for their warmongering, it is surely because they have never understood their own role in this evil. Leaving money behind forced TAXATION to the will of a few and has always proved fatal in world history.

To hold POLITICIANS responsible for a possible future war in Europe and her arms trade, well, for those who believe in Santa Claus, it may be a wish but never a reality; rather, she and her cronies will gain a place higher up in the criminal hierarchy, as is always the case when we do not take our sovereignty home to every single woman and man.

One cannot entrust priests or ministers with the responsibility of asserting one's innocence; war is an immoral and unethical act that no one is born with the right to do.

Self-defence, on the other hand, is the birthright of all women and men.

If we humans stayed in our 'own' half of the court, never claiming to know other people's intentions and therefore going to war against them, the world would look completely different and peaceful. It is a fact that must be understood.

I understand that it is extremely provocative and quite indescribably annoying that what you believe to be the truth can turn out to be a complete illusion. You have been tricked into accepting the bars you were raised behind so well that you don't even see it; it's a cage you live in.

I encourage everyone to examine the system they were raised in and live in and see if anything about what I have described resonates with them. And now, never forget the first Principle.

1st Principle – Rights and Responsibilities:

The original Principle* states that all human beings can live precisely as they wish, but without doing harm. From conception, every human being has the right to unfold in Sovereignty, with the understanding of and in harmony with the original Principle. Therefore, no human being has the right to limit the unfoldment of another.

* Here reference is made to Nature Law, which is a law that is neither human-made nor written-down law, but is attributed to having a validity over human-determined rules and is recognized and felt in all human hearts, as of right and wrong. - Cliff

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War is illegal. It's a criminal offence. Inciting and contributing to the escalation of war is a criminal act. And our war mad PM has become a criminal with her contributions to the escalation of this war. And all Danish taxpayers (including myself) become criminals when contributing to our criminal government's activities. It's our duty to stop supporting our government. Our government must be prosecuted for not following international law which it has committed itself to uphold. It's everyone's duty, including our representatives, to work for peace by peaceful means.

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You are 'absolutely' right, Peter Seidelin Jessen.

Consciousness is not something that the individual holds alone, but a common ocean, a universal consciousness and thus the war against your fellow human beings is your own war of consciousness.

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So incredibly incompetent.

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The danish people is easy to fool. This was proven beyond any doubt when most people believed the vicious lies about Torben Søndergaard and The last reformation in a manipulative tv series. And all the politicians regarded the tv show as truth without bothering to question it, so much that they made a new law against what God himself has commanded believers to do. All from a conspiracy cobstructed by a psycopath with powerful connections who was mad because he lost his girlfriend. This is the big problem in Denmark, the same problem Solzhenitsyn pointed to as the reason for one of the most horrible man slaughter in history; a nation turning its back on God. May God have mercy on Denmark that you may repent before it is too late. But I can see the same culture of lies and rebellion against God in most western countries, so it seems we are moving fast towards judgement. I hope at least a few will listen and turn to God before it is too late.

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Hej Allesammen

Mon ikke Mette Frederiksen er ved at positionere sig selv til en international toppost. Med meningsmålinger, der giver Socialdemokraterne 15 % , blir den næste statsminister nok ikke Mette Frederiksen. Så er det bare om at forlade skuden i tide.

Noget andet er, har Erik Hansen ikke ret i det han skriver om Ukrainekrigen, at Ukraine aldrig ville have haft en chance for at blive medlem af Nato, sådan som situationen så ud før Ruslands angreb på Ukraine. Jeg tror heller ikke på at Europa ville have turdet at lægge sig ud med Putin før 2022, dels på grund af at Rusland jo forsynede hele Tyskland, Holland, Tkekkiet og Slovakiet og delsvis Polen med billig gas, dels de kæmpe investeringer som europæiske firmaer havde i Rusland. Bare danske firmaer har mistet milliarder. Danfoss har taget et tab på 3 milliarder, Carslberg har mistet milliarder ved at måttet sælge alle sine aktiviteter i Rusland for 1kr, Grundfoss har måttet forære sine fabriker i Rusland væk for en slik. Og så videre , og så videre. Og det er endda kun danske virksomheder. Tænk på bilfabrikkerne Mercedes og VW, som har måttet trække sig ud, Ikea havde tusindvis af store butikker, som de har måttet sælge til russiske investorer for en slik. Især indenfor banksektoren har engelske, tyske og schweitsiske banker taget kollosale tab.

På det tidspunkt krigen startede befandt der sig flere hundrede fly fra alle mulige vestlige flyselskaber i russiske lufthavne. Da sanktionerne startede fik de forbud mod at forlade Rusland. Jeg mindes at have læst at vestlige flyselskaber mistede Boing og Airbus fly for opimod 800 milliarder dollars.

Så alt i alt tror jeg ikke at nogen vestlige lande ville have haft interesse i at fremprovokere en konflikt med Rusland over et eventuelt Nato medlemskab for Ukraine. Ikke engang Ukraine selv var interesseret i et Nato medlemskab før 2022. Ukraine var erklæret og internationalt annerkendt som et neutralt land, da Rusland i 2022 angreb Ukraine. Lige så neutralt som Schweiz, og som Sverige og Finland også var det indtil foråret 2024.

Selvfølgelig kan man finde udsagn nogen koldkrigere i det ene og det andet land som kommer med dumme udsagn om total krig mod Rusland, men de er altid blevet irettesat af ledende politikere bagefter.

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Læg mærke til én ting: Det eneste medie i Danmark hvor Jan Øberg stadig kan komme til orde er det ultra stalinistiske media "Arbejderen" . Før kunne han udtale sig i Politiken eller Jyllands Posten, ja endog i Danmarks Radio. Idag virker han som en sur gammel træt Judas, som har solgt sin sjæl til Kina og Putin . Arbejderen har gennem tiden haft forskellige "helte" som de så op til. Den gamle pædofile gris Mao Tse Tung, stalinisten Enhver Hoxa fra Albanien, og nu er det kommunisten i Kina Xi Jinping og galningen i Rusland - Putin. Og selvfølgelig Stalin selv, som de beundrer for hans teoretiske skrifter, men især for hans " proletariatets Diktatur", som han var en sand mester i . Den sidste galning de mangler at glorificere er raketmanden fra Korea.

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• I'm impressed that you managed to write these words without any relevant reference to the interview with the Prime Minister or my comments but just bla-bla about me and Arbejderen.

More like this in the future will be deleted.

• Jeg er imponeret over at du klarer at skrive dette uden så meget som én reference til interviewet og mine kommentarer, bare tarveligheder om mig og Arbejderen.

Flere af denne type i fremtiden vil blive fjernet.

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Undskyld, jeg ville ikke fornærme dig. Men kan du ikke selv se at du er i fuld gang med at ødelægge al respekt som har stået om din egen person. Jeg kan huske for år siden hvor dit ord havde vægt og du blev citeret i pressen når du udtalte dig. Med dit blinde forsvar for Putin og KIna er du da blevet tolalt utroværdig overalt i dansk presse. Endda Ole Ryborg på DR har du formået at fornærme. Putin har startet krig igen i Europa, og Vesten og Biden gjorde alt hvad der stod i deres magt for at forhindre Putin at gå ind i Ukraine i 2022. "Lad vær, lad vær, lad vær" sagde Scholz, Macron, Biden, Johnson. Du får det fremstillet som om det er Nato og Vesten som er skyld i Ukraine krigen - at Putin ikke kunne gøre andet, fordi Nato absolut ville have Ukraine ind i Nato. Sandheden er at før krigen var Ukraines chance for at blive medlem af Nato lig NULL. Hverken Tyskland eller Frankrig ville nogensinde have gået med til det. Og det var heller ikke USA's politik. Så kan det godt være at du kan finde gamle udsagn af de krigsliderlige far og søn præsidenter Bush. Men disse dumme kommentarer blev straks skudt ned af alle europæiske Nato lande. Husk på hvordan det gik da Sverige og Finland ville med i Nato. Det tog over et halvt år, og hvorfor? Fordi 2 lande, Tyrkiet og Ungarn, nedlagde veto. Hver med deres interesse - Ungarn for at presse EU på flere penge, og Tyrkiet for at presse USA på at få lov at købe F36 fly. Især Tyskland har altid holdt på, at Vesten, Nato og Europa aldrig kan lave aftaler, som ikke respekterer Rusland krav om sikkerhed. Enhver fremtidig ordning af Europa skulle ske i forhandling med Rusland. Sikkerheden i Europa kunne kun garanteres hvis Europa havde et fredeligt forhold til Rusland, og Tyskland havde op gennem 90'erne og 00'erne udbygget et enormt økonomisk samarbejde med Rusland. Alle store tyske bilkoncerner og alle store tyske virksomheder havde store afdelinger i Rusland, og hele den tyske energisektor var baseret på russisk gas. Tyskland havde aldrig aldrig aldrig accepteret at provokere Rusland ved at lade Ukraine blive Nato land. Og Tyskland havde nedlagt veto imod sådanne tiltag. Så at krigen skyldes Vesten og Nato er simpelthen en lodret løgn. Det der er sket er at Putin sad isoleret i over et år under Coronakrisen, og her begyndte han at interessere sig for historie. Han blev en hobby historiker, og udgav en bog om Ruslands historie. Vel at mærke Putins fantasier om Ruslands historie. Den indebar at Ukraine altid havde været russisk, og at det ukrainske sprog bare er en russisk dialekt. Derfor skal Ukraine genindlemmes under Rusland. Desuden blev Putin facist og lod sig inspirere af den facistiske filosof Dugin, som mener at Rusland har brug for en stærk diktarorisk leder, og at demokrati, menneskerettigheder, rettigheder for kvinder og sexuelle mindretal kun er udtryk for vestlig dekadance og forfald. Jeg har i flere af dine artikler også læst hvordan du, Jan Øberg, kun omtaler Vesten som umoralsk og i moralsk forfald. Dette fik mig til at skrive at du virker som en fornærmet og misforstået mand. Hvordan kan du tro at du med den holdning kan få gehør i pressen?? Befolkningerne i Vesten, og især i Skandinavien, elsker frihed, demokrati, menneskerettigheder og ligeret for kvinder og alle sexuelle minoriteter. Hvordan kan du tro at nogen gider høre på en person som beskriver alle disse ting som moralsk forfald. I mine øjne er du selv ved at ødelægge dit eget rygte, og hvordan du vil blive husket af eftertiden. Jeg har flere gange været til foredrag med dig, blandt andet i Kolding i 1980 til en stor fredkonference. Derfor har jeg altid haft stor respekt for dine meninger, og jeg forstår slet ikke hvordan du har kunnet havne i den lejr du befinder dig i nu. Selvfølgelig skal krigen standses ved forhandlingsbordet. Men at ukritisk fremsige alle Putins løgne er ikke vejen frem. Og Kina kaster om sig med fromme sætninger om fred og sameksistens, men sandheden er at de holder krigen i Ukraine i live ved at levere halvfabrikata til raketter og våben til Putin. Kina holder liv i en krig i Europa, og fremstiller sig selv som fredsengle. Hvordan kan man dog hoppe på deres limpind og fremstille Xi Jinping som en fredens engel?

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Det er meget enkelt, Erik Hansen. Denne artikel handler om Mette Frederiksens syn på dansk og europæisk sikkerhedspolitik, specielt Ukraine-krigen. Det sker i en tid hvor denne politik bidrager til at øge risikoen for krig og muligvis angreb på Danmark som en del af den.

Blottet for debatkultur og fuld af aggressioner misbruger du dette alvorlige ærinde til dine egne formål og forholder dig - stadigvæk - ikke til noget hun siger eller jeg kommenterer.

Dine vedvarende udfald mod min person betragter jeg som både uinformerede og perfide. F.eks. tog jeg i en artikel på TFF's hjemmeside dagen efter Ruslands invasion af Ukraine afstand fra denne. Du gider ikke læse min fremstilling, for hvis du havde ville du indse at det er 100% vås, det du skriver:

https://transnational.live/2022/08/18/the-tff-abolish-nato-catalogue/

Istedet for at tage stilling til det ene eller anden sagsforhold og eventuelt vise hvor jeg tager konkret fejl eller lyver eller ... ja, så placerer du mig i den eller den lejr - en helt igennem tarvelig debatteknik, men én som den synkende vestverden bruger igen og igen fordi man har for dårlige argumenter. Således også du selv.

Om Kina véd du intet; gætter på at du aldrig har været der. Det har jeg - siden 1983. Vis en smule respekt for andres mening i steder for at smide smædeord rundt. Jeg er fuldt kapabel til at gebærde mig i medieverden og jeg har ingen probelmer med ikke at blive brugt længere i danske medier - det er deres problem.

Hermed er debatten med mig - som du jo bestemt ikke ville fornærme!! :-) - afsluttet og du vil ikke få flere indlæg publiceret her på TFF's platform eller andre steder, som jeg er ansvarlig for.

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Jan Øberg: Jeg forstår du ikke gider bruge tid på at forsvare dig mod Erik Hansens og evt. andres irrelevante personangreb - men ellers må du jo også lade kritikere komme til orde, også selvom deres fredsløsningsukonstruktive, krigsoptrappende stereotype, argumentresistente floskler: "Diktatoren Putin", osv., er velkendte, og som man kan have en velbegrundet mistanke om at de ukritisk, heteronomt og ufiltreret plagierer fra Biden, EU, DK og deres udenrigspolitisk kontrollerede medier. Ellers censurerer du jo ligesom de anti-russiske medier, kritik, men med omvendt fortegn.

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Naturligvis er det fint at kritisere mig; men når der vedblivende i flere omgange (også når jeg svarer) er tale om misbrug af kommentarfeldtet til personangreb og ikke ét ord om det, posten drejer sig om, så mener jeg at der i ethvert kommentarfeldt må være en grænse: Hertil og så ikke længere. Hvis seriøse mennesker med debatlyst finder at det hele er et goldt mundhuggeri så går de andre steder hen og det er i TFF's og min interesse at bidrage til (sober) debat om sager og ikke personer.

Jeg mener ikke at dét kan kaldes censur.

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Prøv at benytte relevante argumenter. Måske kender du udsagnet: gå efter bolden ikke personen.

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